When did high-waisted (and low-waisted) fonts/lettering first appear?

There's a period charm to typefaces with intentionally high middles of letters like /B/E/F/H/K/S. Sometimes A/P/R join in, or sometimes they instead have intentionally low middles. /M and /W and maybe /N might get in the act too. 
I associate this quirk with Jugendstil (central European Art Nouveau) around the turn of the twentieth century, as in these examples:
But it can be seen in Charles Rennie Macintosh's Arts & Crafts work,and American Arts & Crafts folks like Dard Hunter, and later in proportional games played by Art Deco designers. I also guess that this style was adopted into type from sign-painting and hand-lettering practices. 
Any ventures as to when and where it first came about (in type and/or lettering)? (And when you think it peaked?)

Comments

  • Chris Lozos
    Chris Lozos Posts: 1,492
    Do you think there was an influence by Runes?

  • John, I fail to spot any mutual aspect of the above book lettering samples with runes;* nor can I see any high-waist details like in the type samples from the end of the 19th century.
    (* with the exception, perhaps, of the peculiar Þorn which looks like Ƿynn)
  • John Hudson
    John Hudson Posts: 3,702
    edited June 28
    I wasn’t specifically referring to the high-waistedness feature, but to this kind of mediaeval letter as one of the sources of inspiration for some features of this lettering: the shapes of bowls and in the tendency to tall, narrow forms. I am also looking at this mostly in  the UK context, where the Arts & Crafts and pre-Raphaelite movements are explicitly engaged with mediaeval sources.

    Re. the indirect connection with runes, I think familiarity with runes influenced the tall narrow forms of majuscules in the Anglo-Saxon manuscripts. Both scripts are used side-by-side in some Anglo-Saxon manuscripts, so some cross-filtering of aesthetics is unsurprising. See Victoria Symons Runes and Roman Letters in Anglo-Saxon Manuscripts.
  • Chris Lozos
    Chris Lozos Posts: 1,492
    "I think familiarity with runes influenced the tall narrow forms of majuscules" I agree with John on this.