New WIP

Just dropping this in here to gauge opinion. Two styles of ‘g’. Worth continuing as a family? Just lower case so far. Any comments?
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  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    A is a bit thick on the left, thin on the right. 
  • Thomas Phinney
    Thomas Phinney Posts: 2,897
    The A looks perfectly balanced. That is, the left is just enough thinner than the right to seem like they are the same weight. To my eye, anyway.
  • Craig Eliason
    Craig Eliason Posts: 1,440
    Likable! Counter of /v might be a bit large. Bowl of /a feels droopy to me where the rest is so perky. /z might need more contrast. 
    It'll be interesting to see what you do with the caps. The /A here feels comparatively rigid but that's a legitimate option. 
  • K Pease
    K Pease Posts: 182
    I like the shapes of it. Perhaps the hair-thin joins are unnecessarily extreme, when they could comfortably be as solid as /v/w/x/g1.
  • John Butler
    John Butler Posts: 297
    I rather dig, including hair-thin joins. Sort of a Poppl-Inflatio vibe. Hoboid g is charming.
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    Counter of v will be altered now, a > maybe, z > maybe. 

    The hair-thin joins are what gives it the zing. 
  • Cory Maylett
    Cory Maylett Posts: 248
    It's fun. I like it. The bottom of the stem on the b could drop down a bit — especially the pointy part, which should probably extend down to the bottom of the overshoot. In that same letter, the point where the bottom of the bowl connects to the stem seems a little off and unlike anything else in the other letters.

  • lovely!

    the counter in /o is a bit taller than the other round letters, which makes it appear a bit too narrow, to my eye. it stands out more when they are together ("dog")


  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    The bottom of the b is like the top of the q, but you’re right that they should both extend to the overshoot. 
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    Updated with altered b, q, v,  o is wider. Alternate (not as droopy) a and g (bottom) Plus caps.
  • Miles Newlyn
    Miles Newlyn Posts: 252
    horizontals of Z could be thicker.
    Would like to see same text in uppercase only - some interesting widths.
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    Here you go Miles. With thicker horizontals on the Z
  • Craig Eliason
    Craig Eliason Posts: 1,440
    Looking good. Certainly /W and maybe /M are too wide. /J looks too slight I think. I like the new /a. I’d consider making /G less /C-ish and /v less /u-ish. 
  • Eris Alar
    Eris Alar Posts: 455
    Love the vibe! 

    The cap /G looks more like a cap /C to me when reading it. 
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    I’m not happy with C and G. They need to be more like the top of the S. M and W are definitely too wide. C isn’t too bad, maybe just G needs changing. J will be wider. 
  • Craig Eliason
    Craig Eliason Posts: 1,440
    I wonder if /S is too soft amidst the caps. The lean plus the foxtail terminals plus the unconventional modulation may be too different. The softness of the foxtails there (and /C and /G) sticks out more due to the flared terminals everywhere else in the caps. On the other hand /C/G/S do share the liveliness of the lowercase.  
  • The lowercase is lively — have you considered making the capitals more informal or not flared? Of course, /C /Q or/S could remain as they are. I think it would have a wider application potential.
  • jeremy tribby
    jeremy tribby Posts: 251
    edited July 2022
    the construction of the /N stands out to me - the flares make it look a little bit like a backwards И? I think it's possible reducing the flare on the bottom right, or straightening out the diagonal a little bit, could help with that. but it may change things stylistically
  • K Pease
    K Pease Posts: 182
    Now that I see it smaller, I see how the mix of high and low contrast is working. I still think there would be merit in a display version for larger sizes that relaxes the zing. I know this runs opposite to typical display cuts where all the thins get thinner, but it makes sense to me somehow.
  • Miles Newlyn
    Miles Newlyn Posts: 252
    The U looks back to front.

  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    The U looks back to front.

    Yes it does. Beginner mistake. 
  • The 1st /g is pure genius. I will love to see much more of that /g into the rest of the alphabet
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    The 1st /g is pure genius. I will love to see much more of that /g into the rest of the alphabet
    It may be genius, but I’m not such a genius that I could apply that ‘g’ into the other letters. 
  • K Pease
    K Pease Posts: 182
    As an ambigrammist I can tell you it's possible to do it to the /a, but no, I wouldn't recommend it ordinarily.
  • The 1st /g is pure genius. I will love to see much more of that /g into the rest of the alphabet
    I agree!

    Nick Cooke said:
    It may be genius, but I’m not such a genius that I could apply that ‘g’ into the other letters. 

    And I think you are selling yourself short here, Nick. s, f, e, are already giving me similar vibes. The 'a' could maybe be helped if the bowl curved into the stem (like it does in e.g. Lineto's Circular, but less subtle). 
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    Thanks Jasper. I didn’t do the ‘a’ as you suggest because I really don’t like the bowl of the ‘a’ curving into the stem and I think it would look rather fiddly in the small space available. 
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    The C and G have different top terminals, but I don't think that detracts from the design, there's no rule that says they must be the same. Most glyphs have been subtly tweaked in some way as the design progresses. 
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    I have been working on the lightest extreme to produce three intermediate weights:
  • Craig Eliason
    Craig Eliason Posts: 1,440
    edited August 2022
    Maybe /g’s bowl could be taller—the bottom open counter lets a lot of white in in the boldest weights. 
    Overhang of the top of /C works well in bold but might be toned down in light.
  • Nick Cooke
    Nick Cooke Posts: 201
    I deepened the bowl in the light, and it now looks better in Demi.