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Katy Mawhood said: No point reinventing the wheel, if we don't have to.
Theunis de Jong said:
I hardly can keep up with the demand for new forms… and my current toolchain does not support base-to-mark and mark-to-mark, so a lot of accents have to be wrestled in place manually.
Denis Moyogo Jacquerye said:Just because there’s only a handful of fonts that support these characters, that doesn’t mean we have to settle for “the characters are in the font and don’t look horrible”, having “everything looks good” would be nice.
Denis Moyogo Jacquerye said:
https://www.isoglosse.de/2016/06/fonts-for-phonetic-transcriptions/ is a good reference.Unfortunately, there are still some issues with its 5-star rated fonts.
Andreas Stötzner said:
@ChristopherBergmann: I wonder why Andron is the only typeface in the list lacking any stars at all. Is it that bad? ‘More styles’ missing is also not true. – You send me straight down into a final depression…
Somehow I must have missed this 2018 announcement!
The Usage page https://minion.typekit.com/usage/ shows a nice spread of the more common IPA characters – oh's and ah's and such – but a minor bummer is that these are apparently only available in "roman, italic, and small caps".
What, "small caps" as a style? There are lots of small caps characters in the IPA set, but these are characters on their own, with a dedicated Unicode code point. It must be a lack of knowledge of the person who wrote the promotional blurb. Luckily, installing it via Typekit shows the phonetics are available in all styles, 4 weights from Regular up to Bold, and italics as well.
A quick glance shows that their designer used the same mode d'emploi as I did: find a close-enough Minion character and shamelessly mooch off of it (Which I consider a perfectly reasonable workflow, for such purposes.) It also shows the designer struggled with, as I did, italicizing some of the more bizarre IPA characters. Then again, that comes with the territory.
To me, an immediately glaring omission is the total lack of combining accents. For daily use, they could be taken from, say, Times New Roman (ugly as it may be, perhaps, but well endowed) – but that automatically forfeits OpenType smart positioning of these accents.
(@Paul, no sweat. The original question was specifically about Minion, but any useful additions are always welcome!)
Erratum to my mini-review above:
is fortunately entirely untrue. Looking just a bit longer shows Minion 3 has a full complement of combining accents, both above and below, and properly stacking as well:
Just about the only thing left for me to gripe is that the designer chose to rotate the /m to form the /ɯ, rather than constructing it out of two /u's:
(left, Minion 3; right, my version).
Paul Miller said:
The Kelvinch font has a comprehensive set of phonetic characters. It is under the SIL license but I am not going to be coming after anyone with a writ if they produce a commercial derivative.edit : (oops ... sorry I didn't realise this was an old thread until I re-read and saw the dates).