Nebiolo?

James MontalbanoJames Montalbano Posts: 968
edited April 14 in Type Business
Does anyone know who, if anyone, now owns or controls these assets?

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  • George ThomasGeorge Thomas Posts: 564
    edited April 14
    See the last paragraph in this article.

  • Marc OxborrowMarc Oxborrow Posts: 174
    edited April 14
    I wonder if your question was covered in this [email protected] presentation?
  • George ThomasGeorge Thomas Posts: 564
    I also found this on wikipedia.com:
    In 1985, Linotype AG purchased Stempel's type department. Stempel closed down in 1986, donating all of its type and equipment to the Darmstadt University of Technology.[2] Schriften-Service D. Stempel GmbH has possession of the matrices of Stempel, Haas, Klingspor Bros., Deberny & Peignot, Berthold, C.E. Weber, Fonderie Olive, and the Nebiolo foundry and continues to cast their types today.

  • Stephen ColesStephen Coles Posts: 837
    Depends on what assets you mean. Matrices and other physical assets, historical documents and specimens, or intellectual property?
  • Intellectual property.

  • Dan ReynoldsDan Reynolds Posts: 141
    Depending on what the intellectual property is, you may have different answers. I don’t think that any European country’s design patents last so long that typefaces Nebiolo would have registered are still protected. Each European country has different laws, but I doubt other forms of intellectual property protection could apply to typeface designs in Italy that are not digital font files.

    If you are referring to texts written by Nebiolo staff, or items printed by Nebiolo, only items from 1951 or earlier are likely in the public domain yet (whereas texts with bylines attributing them to specific authors probably only enter the public domain 70 years after the author’s death). To republish content like articles, etc – or whole Nebiolo specimens – from the 1950s onward, you might indeed need some sort of waiver from the company that currently owns the Nebiolo assets granting you publication rights.
  • James MontalbanoJames Montalbano Posts: 968
    edited April 16
    I remember Dave Farey mentioning that when he worked at Letraset, the royalty checks sent to Nebiolo would never be deposited.

  • Thank you for the comments. All of this is just curiosity on my part. I have a few Nebiolo specimen books and they are filled with interesting designs most of which I've not seen in digital libraries. I've no interest in developing any of them into digital fonts, not really my thing, but was curious to know who now owns the rights.
  • PabloImpallariPabloImpallari Posts: 544
    edited April 18
    Dont lie to youself. You love nebilo. We all do!. Go ahead and do it! Dont make us pray!!!!
  • I love Nebiolo Pablo. I'm just not into developing those type designs into digital fonts.
  • OK @PabloImpallari let me know what Nebiolo designs you want digitized and I'll consider it.
  • Or better yet @PabloImpallari let me know which ones you are interested in and I'll send you reference scans and you can digitize them!

  • Depends on what assets you mean. Matrices and other physical assets, historical documents and specimens, or intellectual property?
    Aside from who bought matrices or such things, which are not relevant in terms of intellectual property, it’s as George Thomas wrote: Nebiolo Printech was started in 1993 after Nebiolo bankruptcy, so the legacy is there.

    But I believe Dan is right in saying «Depending on what the intellectual property is, you may have different answers. I don’t think that any European country’s design patents last so long that typefaces Nebiolo would have registered are still protected.»

    So, given Dan’s premise about patents which I consider correct, I think in case of living designers one should ask directly. Or, as with almost all of the Nebiolo designers which are dead, it could be a nice thing to ask surviving relatives, if one can track them down.
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