Illuminated opinion

Hi gang! :)
This is a little something I think about putting on a t-shirt for millenials  B)


Looking for opinions before I smooth the lines in Illustrator. Sorry for their messy quality - I am not that experienced in hand inking. But that's a good thing, because often the design improves from it.

Happy commenting! :)

Comments

  • Nathan Zimet
    Nathan Zimet Posts: 76
    edited March 2018
    The upper part of the second L seems a little dark while the leg of the first L might not have enough ornamentation 

    also I first read 'opinion' as 'spinach' but that's probably just me
    Overall i think it looks very nice and love how the bird is saying wut :) 
  • Too much detail to work on a T-short. I also had trouble with reading "Opinion." 
  • Vasil Stanev
    Vasil Stanev Posts: 775
    edited March 2018
    Nathan Zimet  noted

    Bhikkhu Pesala perhaps I should have added that the version for textile would be a single color.
    I have printed on a silk screen 
    carousel and am aware of difficulties with overlaying multiple colors. But have not worked with a textile printer, maybe there are other considerations there.  :#

    Andreas Stötzner noted  :)
  • The 'o-n' ligature in opinion is hard to read.

    What kind of textile printer? I've worked with a few varieties in my day, but nothing recently. There was one that was exactly like screenprinting, but without the screens. Ink worked the same. Another was a kind of ink jet. Basically like CMYK and there were options for a flash, so you could print on dark materials. That was cool, but slow. Not for real mass production. I'm sure it's all improved by now.
  • Theunis de Jong
    Theunis de Jong Posts: 112
    edited March 2018
    On the original:

    I think you should start with a square and divide that into manageable parts first. Looking at "your opinion" (or "your spinach", which I now cannot un-see, thank-you Nathan!), I get the impression that you started off with a wide-spaced "your" but ended up having to cramp "opinion" into a reasonable space.

    The "on" ligature at the end does not work very well, it's not a place where one would expect one. If you want one, try the "io" pair instead, so the word still has a natural last character.

    On both:

    The first large "L" needs a heavier foot, because now it looks like a swash "J". A pointy end at the left bottom instead of that loop might also work. Straighten the left "L" a bit; the contrast with the right "L" is too large, which also makes it difficult to interpret as twice the same character. They don't have to be identical, but I feel there are too many differences.

    I like the intricate work inside the characters! The full color image shows it as some celtic-inspired bronze – nicely done, and those colors really work well.
  • Vasil Stanev
    Vasil Stanev Posts: 775
    edited March 2018
  • The relationship between the second L and the ! is awkward. You've established very loose spacing everywhere else, so the narrow gap between the ball terminal of the L and the dot of the ! feels out of place. EPIC feels like an afterthought, since its construction/roots are so different from the illuminated caps.
  • While the lettering looks nice i would like to point out that in regards to current culture and what people might find funny or worth purchasing the term Epic and having Lol on a t-shirt is a little outdated
  • The tail of the large L still looks less detailed than the upper parts. Maybe add some fine structure there as well?

    The «joint» of the large L has some rather bumpy curves. The jester (?) in there could use some internal contrast.

    The «EPIC» still strikes me as a foreign body. Maybe try lowercase blackletter? Or have some of that orange darkening on the «EPIC» as well. Its monochromaticity is contributing to the impression of being an add-on.

  • Thomas Phinney
    Thomas Phinney Posts: 2,883
    You could have attempted a ligature between the second L and the exclamation mark. I think that might have worked reasonably well.
  • Vasil Stanev
    Vasil Stanev Posts: 775
    "ace"
  • Bhikkhu Pesala
    Bhikkhu Pesala Posts: 210
    edited May 2019
    Have you thought of producing these designs as a Coloured Font? They make my efforts look amateurish, but it is not too hard to create glyphs with several colours.  Two colours may be sufficient for your designs. 


  • Vasil Stanev
    Vasil Stanev Posts: 775
    Have you thought of producing these designs as a Coloured Font?
    No, it did not appear to me.

    The whole suite can be seen here:
    https://www.behance.net/gallery/80169233/A-Day-of-Ornaments
  • Vasil Stanev
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    Vasil Stanev Posts: 775