ATypI 2026 Sharjah – who is going?

I am still planning to attend ATypI 2026 Sharjah in around a month's time. 

I am curious who else here is currently also heading there :) 
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  • Eli Heuer
    Eli Heuer Posts: 14
    edited September 19
    I’ll be there.
  • No way José
  • Thomas Phinney
    Thomas Phinney Posts: 3,222
    edited September 21
    But James, when was the last time you attended any type conference outside the NY area?

    I was leaning towards going, but now undecided. New car and minor work on new house are consuming some money, while regular work and move prep need attention.
  • James Montalbano
    James Montalbano Posts: 158
    edited September 21
    @Thomas Phinney I haven't attended a type conference in or out of the New York area in years. IMHO they are all a giant waste of time and money.
  • Eli Heuer
    Eli Heuer Posts: 14
    edited September 21
    It was just under 2k for flight/hotel/ticket, well worth it if it helps Runebender gain adoption as the best local-AI next gen font editor, or if I can get anyone interested in my neural network based OpenType alternative that fixes all the problems the Perso-Arabic script has with OpenType.
  • James Montalbano
    James Montalbano Posts: 158
    edited September 22
    @Thomas Phinney I believe the last ATypI conference I attended was in Dublin I dont recall the year.
    Not only were the presentations dull, but the Pubs were surprisingly unfriendly.
    But my tour of the coast north of Dublin was somewhat enjoyable
  • John Hudson
    John Hudson Posts: 3,875
    edited September 22
    Different strokes, different folks, and all that.
    But yes, the coast north of Dublin is lovely.
  • Eli Heuer
    Eli Heuer Posts: 14
    edited September 22
    James, the fact that many type conference talks are bad or uninteresting to you just means the bar is low and you have something to add if you actually have new and interesting ideas.

    I used to make similar complaints, but now I learned to just see opportunity.

    “The characteristic feature of the loser is to bemoan, in general terms, mankind’s flaws, biases, contradictions, and irrationality—without exploiting them for fun and profit.”

    ― Nassim Nicholas Taleb

  • James Montalbano
    James Montalbano Posts: 158
    edited September 23

  • Eli Heuer
    Eli Heuer Posts: 14
    edited September 24
    I made a post and there was some discussion about it. If anyone that is going is interested, maybe we could do a short informal brainstorming session on this at ATypI 2026 Sharjah? I did a lot of work with bablefont support in Runebender last weekend and I have thoughts, I am thinking about working on a UFO done right for the 2030s source format over Christmas break.

    https://typo.social/@elih/117315792893205455

    Now that every serious type designer will use custom tools and workflows they build with agents, the need for a UFO-like cross-platform, cross-application, human readable, future proof format for storing font data is more important that ever.

    The glyphs format has been a disaster and is clearly no longer tenable.

    Bablefont is not the answer, it adds complexity, and was created by the same short sighted engineering culture that created the Glyphs mess in the first place.

  • Vasil Stanev
    Vasil Stanev Posts: 801
    edited September 26
    I have never attended such conferences and intend to do so at a convenient time, preferably when the international situation has cooled off a bit. The tickets seem to be reasonably priced. As far, however, as I can infer from graphic design conferences, whether one should attend ot not depends on where you are along your design journey, at least in my opinion. Most of the design conferences I've been to were basically a series of presentations and a Q&A, which are all things that can be done digitally. True, nothing or almost nothing can substitute the live interaction and the feel you get for people you might potentially work with, but all of this can be done with some amount of digital interaction also. The bigger of a business you are, and the more experienced you are, the better deal your get from people that reach out to you themselves, so going somewhere in person might not be the best option, especially if you don't have the energy you had when you were young. I'm here speaking generally.
    This year I was at the European Design Awards that was conveniently hosted in my city (Sofia, Bulgaria). I got the chance to see many beautiful images and presentations, and talked to many designers. The eye tires after decdes of beautiful images online... There was a very elegant type presentation in there that did, however, got ruined when the Q&A get political for some reason. At the same time, some younger designers on there probably got good business out of the face-to-face communication. So I have to agree with @John Hudson that it's different strokes for different folks. I'm here talking about graphic design conferences, but I don't think type design conferences are too diferent. I might be wrong. I think, personally, that regardles of background and affiliation, each person should strive to make their fonts production-ready, well fine-tuned, kerned, coded etc. Our work , if it's good, will probably outlive the current political and economic upheavals by centuries, so we should strive to get the most of the technical expertise our colleagues can give us, and be polite and collegial in return. This seems reasonable to me.
    I'm adding some of her BEAUTIFUL work so the post isn't too text heavy (pun intended :) 
    https://www.instagram.com/bruneaulea/?hl=en
  • Eli Heuer
    Eli Heuer Posts: 14
    edited October 23

    Responding to John, I think ATypI made the right decision.

    A serious international professional organization needs to be able to bring together people who disagree.

    Where exactly is the line? Should Americans who voted for Trump be excluded from international conferences? What about people who supported the Obama administration despite its drone warfare program and the civilian deaths it caused?

    I'd rather see ATypI remain an international forum for type design and typography than become an organization where participation depends on passing an ever-changing political litmus test.

    I was involved in the font industry during peak woke 1.0, and what drives me crazy is that the people who are loudest about political issues completely outside the scope of the font industry are often complicit in some of the worst injustices within the industry itself—problems they actually have the power to do something about.

    Peter Thiel said something recently that resonated with me:

    “If you're evil, you're at least competent. And therefore, maybe you're actually kind of good because you're at least getting something done.”

    Evil is of course subjective, to many many people things that the western liberal elites of the font industry find perfectly normal could be considered evil. The global nature of global scripts I think demands that people with differing viewpoints work together and cooperate.

    I'd like professional conferences to be places where people can come together and actually do the work, and politics outside the scope of the task at hand is often used by people who can't do the work as a weapon against the people who can, and often as a weapon against people trying to break into the industry and actually make things better for users and consumers of type and type technology.

    Maybe ParaType is evil and bad, I don't know the details. But I do know that there is a huge wave of AI disruption about to hit the font industry, and mob justice and cancel culture are often more about gatekeeping an industry than the surface issues, where is the line between this and excluding an AI startup because they post on X and think Elon is kind of a good guy actually?

  • Eli Heuer
    Eli Heuer Posts: 14
    edited October 23
    The Theil quote is from a longer discussion, and I think the full point is very relevant to the kind of dysfunction I am warning against. The point is that in industries and cultures where this kind of mob justice takes hold, often the people that rise to power are the best at virtue signaling and playing political games, and competent people who get things done are pushed out for not saying the right shibboleths.
    “If you're evil, you're at least competent, and if you're evil, you're not bad. And therefore, maybe you're actually kind of kind of good because you're at least getting something done... I think it's better to be good than evil. I want to be very clear... but we have all these good versus evil debates and we're just we're full of badness, and so you're in a world where 99% of the businesses, companies, people, political leaders, business leaders are totally incompetent.”
  • Eli Heuer
    Eli Heuer Posts: 14
    edited October 24
    Can you point me to an actual example of something ParaType did wrong? Not a second hand account of something that was said? The Obama administration was accused of war crimes by human rights organizations and legal scholars, primarily regarding its targeted drone strike programs and military support in foreign conflicts, and most of the US font industry still enthusiastically supports that administration.

    I am open to changing my mind about this!

    ParaType fonts are on Google Fonts and I think Adobe and Monotype MyFonts also: https://fonts.google.com/specimen/PT+Serif 
    Should we boycott Google, Adobe, and Monotype?
  • John Butler
    John Butler Posts: 369
    Since there seems to be a movement afoot to make ATypI All Things To All People, does ATypI have an official opinion on Israel or Palestine? Are Jews allowed at ATypI conferences? What direction should ATypI require us to face when praying?

    The world would have so fewer problems if those Font People would simply chant the correct slogans.
  • Chris Lozos
    Chris Lozos Posts: 1,531
    It was much better when ATypeI was strictly a group of typography professionals and not tied to either corporate conglomerates or political overlords from anywhere in the World. Type people are human beings as well and should respect the lives of all of our fellow human beings, including those being bombed into oblivion in Ukraine. Humanity should count for something.
  • Thank you very much, John and Jean François!

    I think that it is not enough to just not go to this year’s (second) ATypI conference, which is now already underway, and we have still not heard anything from the board. We really need either a different board, or as large a boycott of future ATypI events as possible.

    I have attended 11 ATypI conferences between 2004 and 2016, as well as a non-conference event in early 2020. I spoke at seven of those events and I had been hoping to attend another conference soon, if one would be in western or central Europe and not scheduled during the (admittedly weird) German academic seasons. However, I can’t imagine attending any further ATypI events unless something drastic happens, like full transparency about how this inexplicably bad decision and the even-worse public silence afterwards actually unfolded.

    I can’t determine anyone else’s decisions but I sincerely hope that, wherever the next conference is, all regular past attendees will choose to not propose talks, not sponsor the event, and not attend themselves. Is it really going to come to past that, in 2027, everyone gets excited by the call for papers and pretends that this travesty never happened? I very much hope that this is not what comes to pass.
  • Many thanks to @John Hudson for his very interesting contextualisation, which goes beyond the issue of ATypI’s attitude regarding the management of speakers and its external communication. John, like myself, has been a member of the ATypI board, and each of us, a few years apart, organised an annual ATypI conference in our respective countries. This is to say that the future of the ATypI is important for us, even if in my case, following the transformation of the early 2000s, which we were several to drive, I put myself aside to let the association develop and open up to new generations.

    Without going into the details as John Hudson so masterfully did, explaining how typography is an ingredient of imperialism. Like John, I can also bear witness to my contact with Maxim Zhukov, who was an important ambassador for the recognition of Cyrillic in our Western countries. The ITC Cyrillic projects are to his credit. The situation is even more complex as Alexandra Korolkova – who succeeded in renewing Cyrillic by bringing it a dimension influenced by handwriting – is a recipient of the Charles Peignot Prize (2013), as I was (1998), along with nine other excellent designers, an award presented by ATypI.

    Dan Reynolds very rightly says, himself bearing witness to his interest in ATypI, we are here to encourage ATypI to hold its head high; there is still time, but please not after ATypI 2026 Sharjah. https://atypi.org/conferences-events/atypi-2026-sharjah/

  • hi. my personal opinion (which is wider than one screenshot) is only mine. i’m open to discussion, but please, don’t involve my colleagues