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  • James Puckett
    James Puckett Posts: 1,979
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    What’s the new poster size? I still see the old one.
  • Ray Larabie
    Ray Larabie Posts: 1,402
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    MyFonts posters are now 400×200 on the desktop with no option to view a larger image. I think this is an effort to unify the interface across all Monotype retail sites. Until recently, Fonts.com had very wide, low-resolution posters with no click/expand. Fonts.com currently shows 560×280 banners in 2:1 aspect ratio. Perhaps this is related to how inefficient the 2:1 format is on mobile devices and social media feeds. 2:1 aspect ratio posters appear about 30mm high on a phone so they’re not useful for showing any details about a typeface—just a splash of color and texture to convey a vibe. If they had stuck with the old 1:1 ratio, the posters could have served a useful purpose on social media and in their mobile interface. I think they should have switched to 4:3 ratio a decade ago when it was obvious that 2:1 ratio wasn’t going to be part of the future. Anyone who shares on social media or distributes on sites like Creative Market are already producing both 2:1 ratio and 4:3 ratio anyway. I already have both formats of all my posters, but it would be a huge burden to ask all foundries to switch to 4:3 or provide both and MyFonts would be stuck with a site where half the posters were still in 2:1. This gives distributors with 4:3 posters an advantage. On Creative Market, they have big posters on each typeface page with social media share buttons. On the desktop you can click/expand and get huge posters that fill the browser window as you scroll. That’s why I think MyFonts is currently diminishing the importance of the poster on the main scroll. Those posters are still useful for their campaigns so providing high resolution versions is still worthwhile. But even in those campaigns I’m sure they wish they had the option of 4:3.

  • K Pease
    K Pease Posts: 182
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    Very weird. It is possible to see the images full size but it takes two steps: Right click to select "Open image in new tab", and then remove "width=720,height=360" from the url that results; I don't even know how or why the site imposes this on a request for the browser to just look at the image.

  • Ray Larabie
    Ray Larabie Posts: 1,402
    edited July 2022
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    If I right click and save the image to my desktop it's 720×360 in webp format but actual size in the browser is 400×200.
  • Dusan Jelesijevic
    Dusan Jelesijevic Posts: 66
    edited July 2022
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    I'm amused how many bad decisions they are capable to make. Take any font and try to see in details each poster – you won't be able to read the most of text on it.

    What's the point of posters then? To have them as necessity, but they practically have no use now. I invest hours in making them. What for? To be able to not see anything on them? I'm really pissed off. And not just cause of posters. So much bad steps they have done in just last year, I'm really concerned if it's multimillionaire company or by some Tiktok influencer.

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  • Dusan Jelesijevic
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    Ray, I agree and it seems logical all what you wrote, but that's not problem of us who sell trough their website(s). At least, it shouldn't be, but as we're discussing about it, it surely became.

    If I make a car, I won't sell prototypes to customers. I would firstly test it well before going into production. Same goes for their website(s) – they didn't have to change anything till they made proper new website, fully tested in their local environment. We have unfinished product now that's worst then previous version that were functional.

    The biggest problem is that all their decisions effects on our sales. We waited for months to get back operated promotion section (with letting us to set promotions from time to time and not allowing the new families to be on sale). That was not fair to us who sell fonts there and I'm sure some part of customers also noticed that something is going on with the website.

    You have the money, you practically control the biggest part of the market and you let your self such amateurish behaviour. That's simply non acceptable for such big company with such history.

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  • James Puckett
    James Puckett Posts: 1,979
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    If I make a car, I won't sell prototypes to customers. I would firstly test it well before going into production. Same goes for their website(s) – they didn't have to change anything till they made proper new website, fully tested in their local environment. We have unfinished product now that's worst then previous version that were functional.
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    They might be testing multiple versions of the web site to see which one leads to the most sales. This is common in web design.

    But that doesn’t mean that everything they’re testing isn’t shit.
  • Michael Rafailyk
    Michael Rafailyk Posts: 143
    edited July 2022
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    One more issue with a new MyFonts website is the changed font family url address format. And now some of existed external links to the font families are don't work, however all the others old links are successfully redirected to the new address. I submitted a bug ticket to them. Hope it's temporary.

    The old address example:
    myfonts.com/fonts/michael-rafailyk/fioritura/
    The new address example:
    myfonts.com/collections/fioritura-font-michael-rafailyk
  • Claudio Piccinini
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    One more issue with a new MyFonts website is the changed font family url address format. And now some of existed external links to the font families are don't work, however all the others old links are successfully redirected to the new address. I submitted a bug ticket to them. Hope it's temporary.

    The old address example:
    myfonts.com/fonts/michael-rafailyk/fioritura/
    The new address example:
    myfonts.com/collections/fioritura-font-michael-rafailyk
    A positive thing Monotype (inadvertently) caused: there are many interesting things I like in some of your typefaces: keep up the research/work! :)
  • James Puckett
    James Puckett Posts: 1,979
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    One more issue with a new MyFonts website is the changed font family url address format. And now some of existed external links to the font families are don't work, however all the others old links are successfully redirected to the new address. I submitted a bug ticket to them. Hope it's temporary.

    The old address example:
    myfonts.com/fonts/michael-rafailyk/fioritura/
    The new address example:
    myfonts.com/collections/fioritura-font-michael-rafailyk
    This is going to break millions of affiliate links. Leave it to them to not think of that.
  • Mark Simonson
    Mark Simonson Posts: 1,687
    edited July 2022
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  • Ray Larabie
    Ray Larabie Posts: 1,402
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     @James Puckett I tried clicking some old affiliate links and it appears that their system automatically forwards to the new URL.
  • Ray Larabie
    Ray Larabie Posts: 1,402
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    Something that I really like from Monotype lately is their podcast. There have been other type-related podcasts over the years but this one's my favorite so far. They've got lots of interesting guests and they keep it tight. Does anyone else here listen to it? If you haven't tried it, look up Creative Characters on your podcast app of choice.
  • JoyceKetterer
    JoyceKetterer Posts: 794
    edited July 2022
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    @Ray Larabie. I'm a big podcast listener and haven't even heard of this one till now.  Do you have favorite episodes you'd suggest I listen to?  
  • Ray Larabie
    Ray Larabie Posts: 1,402
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    @JoyceKetterer James Horwitz, Ellen Lupton, and Hannelore Ocampo (Ford Motor Company). If you're into punk rock/new wave music history, don't miss the recent Andrew Krivine Michael Worthington episode.
  • Stephen Coles
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    Back to the MT NFTs: I checked the site and it appears only 17 out of about 10,000 have sold. (If you understand NFTs better than I, please correct me.) I don’t think this was a winner for them. 
  • Stephen Coles
    Stephen Coles Posts: 1,001
    edited August 2022
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    The project is also no longer on their homepage or press page, and any mention is actually kind of hard to find on their site except for a few blog posts about NFTs in general and a sort of apologetic FAQ. https://www.monotype.com/resources/expertise/helvetica-nft-faq
  • James Puckett
    James Puckett Posts: 1,979
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    That FAQ is hilarious. They should have just had one question: “Is this a cash grab?” and answered “Yes.”
  • Ray Larabie
    Ray Larabie Posts: 1,402
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    I think this concept was developed when NFTs were booming and the timing of the release was unfortunate. In early 2021, most of the media coverage about NFTs seemed positive. If this had launched in late 2021, I think it would have been a marketing win as it would have caught the tail end of the trend. In other words, it's like working for a year on a Macarena remix and releasing it in late 1997 after most people had their fill of it.
  • Eris Alar
    Eris Alar Posts: 441
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    @Ray Larabie I saw this the other day and it seems Macarena had a longer and weirder history than I had remembered :-) I’m sure there is type industry parallel in there somewhere haha  
  • Ray Larabie
    Ray Larabie Posts: 1,402
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    @Eris Alar Todd's video is exactly why that topic was on my mind.
  • Eris Alar
    Eris Alar Posts: 441
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    @Ray Larabie haha nice 👍 
  • Nick Cooke
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    When is Monotype going to allow us to see MyFonts sales reports again? The ability to see them ended at the end of June with Monotype saying they would be able to be viewed again ‘soon’. 
  • Andreas Stötzner
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    When is Monotype going to allow us to see MyFonts sales reports again? The ability to see them ended at the end of June with Monotype saying they would be able to be viewed again ‘soon’. 
    my concern exactly.  I’m sure the reasons are not on the technical side.

  • Jesse R Ewing
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    After a few back and forth emails with foundry support requesting license details, not just sales numbers, they just stopped responding to me. I reached out via a Twitter DM and was told to email foundry support. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯