Updated Ver Sacrum style
Nick Cooke
Posts: 200
Here's something I started last week. This is just the beginning. There are lots more variations to do, but it definitely has potential. Updating a style from 125 years ago. Monoline from Thin to Medium and contrast from Thin to Medium.
The original designs were very illustrative but I thought I could make it sharper and with a slight flair. My sketch had a very contrasty style, as seen in pencil, but while digitising I really liked the Thin monoline, so I have done it in both monoline and contrasty styles as shown below. The Thin remains the same for both styles.
I looked for other digitised versions of the Ver Sacrum style but wasn't enamoured with any of them, so I thought there is room for improvement, especially with the versatility of OpenType.
The original designs were very illustrative but I thought I could make it sharper and with a slight flair. My sketch had a very contrasty style, as seen in pencil, but while digitising I really liked the Thin monoline, so I have done it in both monoline and contrasty styles as shown below. The Thin remains the same for both styles.
I looked for other digitised versions of the Ver Sacrum style but wasn't enamoured with any of them, so I thought there is room for improvement, especially with the versatility of OpenType.
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Nick Cooke said:... I really liked the Thin monoline..
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Since all the caps naturally emphasize the baseline and cap-height line, and some letters particularly so (like A/R/D), the contextual alternates that lose touch with either line jump out to me.
I would make R and K legs thick in the contrasted style.0 -
The /G sticks out for me. It seems a little out of place next to the /B, /C, /D, /P and /R, particularly in the monoline.1
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Overall, I find the contrasted versions much more convincing that the monolines. Many letters seem too wide (especially /A/ and /N/) or too weird (/B/; maybe /L/?). The tiny contextual alternates (especially /E/) look out of place. All of these are more noticeable in the monolines.Does contrasted /B/ look too busy?
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I'm not really bothered about proportions being too wide or weird. I spend most of my time restraining myself from exuberance so I'm going a little wild and IT FEELS GREAT. Running with the wind in my hair. Laughing HA HA HA!0
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I personally already like the monoline medium when set in small size, maybe I'd just add some organic terminal flaring or subtle contrast to give it more oomph when set in larger sizes.I'm loving the tiny T in CT/ST, and I'd try to make the tiny E feel more like it — make it more substantial, maybe wider, so that its size and proportions feel justified by the shape of the adjacent letters just like it is in CT/ST. Currently, in PE/LE it feels as though there's either "too little E" or "too little P/L".0
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In general, this looks very nice as an Art Noveau styled typeface. However, the smaller E as an alternate - particularly in the third line of the phrase Opentype Characters - looks like it belongs to a completely different typeface. (Although as the smaller letter O elsewhere demonstrates, alternate smaller letters are appropriate to this typeface.)
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An interesting art nouveau font, although the origin is a manual pen font, if the idea is to make it as a standardized font, I would try to make some visual adjustments.For example, the endings are all different, even in characters of similar construction, such as E and F.
Although it may be on purpose, there is the contradiction with the construction of the crossbars that they are all at the same height
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This was all just the initial stage. It's evolving all the time. It has a degree of randomisation depending on which style set, or combination of style sets is chosen.
This example shows all sets together:
Contextual Alternates
Up and Down
Curvy bottoms
Long stretched S
Alternate E
Alternate W
This has all except Alternate E and W:
This is as above without Curvy bottoms, (E andL):
This is just Up and Down with no others:
So there are quite a few possibilities for different styles, some which I haven't thought of yet.
There will be the contrasted style and monoline styles in the same font:
Before anyone mentions it, no it isn't fully kerned.2 -
Awsome. btw. long stretched S have potential for other contextual alternates like "SO". I'm sorry I couldn't stop myself to try:
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I haven't exploited its possibilities yet.0
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Latest WIP. Trying to introduce as much variety as possible.2
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I’m not sure what to do about the lower case. I don’t find them convincing for this style. Maybe I’ll do lower case as small caps instead.0
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I quite dig this design, and the closest existing font I can imagine in this Secessionist style at the moment is Paul Shaw’s Kolo, which also lacks lowercase.
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I think your font has very "lowercased" cap letters, that's why you have the feeling they are not necessary. I think designing lowercase letters, although being an interesting challenge, can result in something a bit redundant, where the biggest visual difference would be just the difference in size.
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Incidentally, Uni Heidelberg offers the complete run of Ver Sacrum (Sacred Spring), which was the magazine of the Sezession artist's group.
https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/vs3 -
You might also enjoy the Wiener Werkstätte’s Die Fläche. A few highlights at Letterform Archive. And if you’re a member, you can see a recording of a talk I gave on the topic last year.
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Ver Sacrum (Sacred Spring)
Ooooh... and here I thought it said «Sacred Worm». But that would be Vermis Sacer.
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My Mac has decided to be uncooperative; It’s stuck on opening and there’s nothing I can do to boot up, and I have tried everything I can from various forums. Unfortunately my Time Machine hasn’t been backing up either since December 17th and I didn’t notice, and all this work has been done since then. Hopefully sending it to be repaired won’t wipe all work from this month or I’ll have to recreate it. At least I have these images, but I’ve done a fair bit more since.I have seen the Uni Heidelberg stuff. Thanks.0
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That’s it, it’s gone!
Back to the drawing board.0 -
Ugh, Nick, I'm so sorry! I’ve been there. This is why I regularly backup both locally and online with a service like Backblaze.1
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Thanks Stephen. I’ve got my Mac back with a new hard drive, now with two external HD’s plugged in the back. Lesson learned, start again. At least I didn’t lose everything, just this, so I’m happier than I should be in the circumstances.0
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I’m now back on track, having progressed further than I was before disaster struck. I also figured out how to make a variable font with the Monoline and Contrast styles thanks to the help of the excellent Glyphs Forum. Here are some numerals:0
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Incidentally, Uni Heidelberg offers the complete run of Ver Sacrum (Sacred Spring), which was the magazine of the Sezession artist's group.
https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/vs
https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=vsa
Obviously, as the ONB has a complete collection of all newspapers, journals and books published in Austria or the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Oldest newspaper is from 1568.
The Museum of Applied Arts https://mak.at/en has a large collection of Art-Nouveau posters, but unfortunately without open access.0 -
Re the drive failure, I save everything to either Google Drive or Dropbox, I keep almost nothing local, and what is kept local is unimportant. Aside from the peace of mind that if my computer melts down I have all my files, I also find it useful as I can access my files from anywhere, from my phone or iPad, or from a browser on any computer. I use to use Backblazw, and might consider it again, but it use to be (have no idea now) strictly focused on backup, not day-to-day use.1
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Re the type design, I’m loving watching the process. Thanks for sharing0
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Love those numerals!
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Testing different feature combinations work in both Monoline and Contrast styles.0
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I prefer the straight "L", the round one looks a bit cartoonist, a nose ;-).I also prefer the straight "M", the other option is a bit forced, it seems like a typographic error.1
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There are many options as you can see. You can choose what you prefer.0
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