TTF Export Switching Glyph Slots

Terry Biddle
Terry Biddle Posts: 27
in Type Design Software
When I export my fonts to TTF in FontLab and load them in InDesign, some of the glyphs have switched slots. I've got "en dashes" where "n tildes" should be. "Ham" where "burgers" should be—and so on and so forth.

Basically, anything where I have to press the "option" key is "effed."

OTF versions are fine. Any insights?

Thanks!
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  • Mark Simonson
    Mark Simonson Posts: 1,739
    Have you tried clearing your system font caches? Uninstalling the font(s), restarting, reinstalling the font(s) usually does the trick, among other ways.
  • Terry Biddle
    Terry Biddle Posts: 27
    Thanks, Mark. I tried that and also reexported the fonts and reinstalled. I'll give it another go and see if that fixes the problem.
  • Terry Biddle
    Terry Biddle Posts: 27
    I use Font Explorer for my font management. Cleared cache, deleted font files. Reexported fonts in FontLab, loaded them in Font Book this time. Opened InDesign. Still not working.

    Could it possibly be my ascender and descender measurements? Tildes and accent marks extend beyond the ascender measurements.
  • Michael Jarboe
    Michael Jarboe Posts: 265
    I could never get Font Explorer and the like to properly clear caches, the only thing that ever works is FontNuke.
  • Georg Seifert
    Georg Seifert Posts: 674
    edited January 2015
    Terry, check this: http://www.glyphsapp.com/tutorials/testing-your-fonts-in-adobe-apps/ it is written for Glyphs but the same workflow can be used from FLS, too.
  • Terry Biddle
    Terry Biddle Posts: 27
    Thanks, Georg. Gave that a shot but the problem still persists. This is a screen grab of what it keeps doing.
  • Georg Seifert
    Georg Seifert Posts: 674
    can you try with a different font family name? This may still be a font cache problem.
  • James Puckett
    James Puckett Posts: 1,998
    Try nuking all of your caches in single-user mode with Applejack: http://applejack.sourceforge.net/
  • Mark Simonson
    Mark Simonson Posts: 1,739
    You're not installing both the TTF and the OTF at the same time, right?
  • Terry Biddle
    Terry Biddle Posts: 27
    Mark, yes I am, but I have them named different. Does that matter? Sorry if these are rookie mistakes.

    Also, my HD appeared to be corrupt and I had to run Disk Utility several times to repair the problem.

    James, downloaded it and it says I can't be logged in as a user to run Applejack? (Running this script while logged in as a user can crash your operating system)

    Not sure how to install this.

    My apologies for all the questions—I really don't know very much about programming and these problems are really stumping me.

    Thanks for the help.
  • Georg Seifert
    Georg Seifert Posts: 674
    All the cache problems can be avoided if you don't install the fonts in the system fonts folder. So change the family name and put them in the Adobe fonts folder.

    And have you checked if the fonts are OK? Maybe you have some strange reencoding going on?
  • LeMo aka PatternMan aka Frank E Blokland
    LeMo aka PatternMan aka Frank E Blokland Posts: 723
    Hi Terry,

    For a closer look into the guts of your OTF and TTF fonts, you could give the free OTM Light 3.7, which you can download from here, a try.
  • John Hudson
    John Hudson Posts: 3,227
    In FL 'Options / Generating OpenType PS, OpenType TT and TrueType' parent panel, make sure that 'Automatically reorder glyphs' is NOT checked.

    In FL 'Options / Generating OpenType TT / TrueType encoding' child panel, make sure that 'Use following codepage for first 256 glyphs:' is set to 'Do not reencode first 256 characters'.


  • Terry Biddle
    Terry Biddle Posts: 27
    John—THAT DID IT. Thanks a million!
  • Terry Biddle
    Terry Biddle Posts: 27
    Many thanks to everyone for helping me troubleshoot! :)

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