SindreSindre Posts: 3
edited March 2012 in Type Design Critiques
I drew this a while ago, and had forgotten all about it. Any comments and critique very welcome; please help me decide if it's worthy of development or not.


Obvious Dwiggins influences here. The goal was to make a cool, not too dark book face, where deliberately coarse curves are balanced against more refined shapes.

Pdf here.


  • WAD meets Unger in a bar. Who had too much to drink?

    Personally if this forum is going to work, I think all members need to be a bit more forthcoming in their identities. I need to know a bit more of Sindre than the username Sindre.

    Perhaps it's just me.
  • The pinched effect at the diagonals of the round caps /C/D/O/Q/ bother me. Seems like those letters introduce both more sudden contrast and wavering thickness of hairline. What would it look like to choose one or the other of those?
    Upper right serif of /u/ looks too long to me.
    I also see a lot of Sindre in this (which I love)!
  • SindreSindre Posts: 3
    Thank you very much, Craig! Good to see you in here. Yes, you're right about those round caps. I guess that was an attempt to give the upper case some kind of modulation too, though none may be needed. I'll try to make them just plain vanilla smooth. You're definitely right about the /u/. But do you think this typeface has enough identity in its own right? (I know nothing at all about Gerard Unger, so if this typeface resembles his work, that is a pure coincidence. I only recently learnt that Unger is someone contemporary, and not the guy who made Unger Fraktur, actually.)

    And James, what do you need to know about me? I'm not good at socialising, you see.
  • I see you have updated your info with your real name. That is all I wanted. Seems to me that asking for a crit is socializing so maybe you should re-think the whole process.

    If you have never heard of Unger perhaps you should study more.

    As to your design, do you really want to spend time on a genre that has been beaten to death over the last few years?

    If you do...
    The upper and lower case lack harmony in their weights. One has to get lighter or the other has to gain some weight

    The uppercase C is a mess, the bottom is too heavy and unbalanced. The UC diagonal forms all look too heavy as is the S. The N appears too light an a touch too narrow. The diagonal of the R is a disaster and does not harmonize with the K. The AE is missing a serif at the top.

    Tail of the Q is uncomfortable.

    Lowercase g is heavy an unbalanced, lowercase c, e, k, s, v, w, and x are heavy. Dots over the i and j are too far to the right. that notch at 2:00 on the n,m, h is reducing the weight of those glyphs and giving them a "too light" feel. The tail of the y is stiff.

    The internal form of the lowercase o has no relation to the uppercase. The bottom of the u looks flaccid, needs more upturn. The right of the r is weak.

    There is probably more in there, but that is what I see at the moment.

    All the best.
  • SindreSindre Posts: 3
    Thank you for your feedback. Sorry I misunderstood your first comment. The lack of full name was not intentional, I just forgot filling in that information.
    do you really want to spend time on a genre that has been beaten to death over the last few years?
    No. That's why I asked if this is worth the effort or not. Can you give me some good examples of typefaces in this genre? You're absolutely right, I should study more. And my suspicions that this isn't good enough are strengthened.
  • Just look at the Latin designs coming out of Reading the last 10 years, or anything Gerard Unger has done. They all share a similar Unger approach to construction.
  • SindreSindre Posts: 3
    Thank you. Will do. I remember thinking that 'these are all alike' when I looked at the work of Reading students the other year, and believe me, I'm not one of those guys. None of my completed designs are like that at all.
  • I'd personally like to see this either tighter (as per James M's edits) or looser. I think if you tighten this up & refine it, it might have something of a Reading look. But what if you loosened it up, made it more eccentric, jaggier? What if Oldřich Menhart stole Unger's seat at that bar?
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