History of ball terminals in serif typefaces

I'm just curious if there's some background to why ball terminals are used for some characters (e.g. a, c) in some serif typefaces (even blockier slab serifs), instead of serifs for all characters.

I feel I've seen both (all serifs in a typeface and the mix of serif and ball terminal), and I figure that perhaps the use of ball terminals has something to do with space/density in a character or aesthetic reasons. But wondering if there's more to it that would guide as to when it might be the best decision to use versus not.

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  • Thomas Phinney
    Thomas Phinney Posts: 2,897
    edited June 2018
    I think the use of (some, reasonable) ball terminals in a serif (especially slab serif) typeface can make it feel less sharp, less harsh. It gives the typeface a warmer tone.

    I can imagine having a design axis that increases the number of ball terminals as you slide along. Or one or more stylistic sets to turn them on.
  • Adam Ladd
    Adam Ladd Posts: 264
    Thank you for expanding on this with your knowledge, Thomas and John. Great insights/points.
  • In type, the more one can think free of black-painting tools, the greater the potential for both pleasure and productivity. It's just mentally more challenging.

    When making the Armenian component of Ernestine, I was in a position to decide where to put balls; harmonizing with the "mood" of the Latin being the goal, attempting to rationalize where a [right] hand holding a particular obsolete tool would put a ball would have been an arbitrary constraint, reducing the quality of the product.
  • John Hudson
    John Hudson Posts: 3,229
    edited June 2018
    I don't think it's a matter of 'attempting to rationalize where a [right] hand holding a particular obsolete tool would put a ball': any rationalisation has already taken place, centuries ago, in the evolution of the typical forms of letters. You say you were in a position to decide where to put ball terminals in Ernestine Armenian, but you didn't put them in the place of horizontal entry and exit strokes/serifs, you used them for hanging terminals.
  • Nick Shinn
    Nick Shinn Posts: 2,216
    edited June 2018
    Conceptually, contrast the uniformity of serifed type detail that exists in the oldstyle—informed by the principle of constraint exercised by a broad nib pen held at a consistent angle; with the variety of detail that exists in the didone—informed by the flexibility of a pointed nib capable of producing a variety of shapes: balls, hooks, triangles and hairlines.

    As well as the ball terminals on /a, /c, /f, /g, /r and /y that one finds in the Clarendon, note also the skinny hook terminals of its /R and /a—all vestiges of the didone which may be considered “transitional”, artefacts of the emergent principle of related boldness (see image below) that occurred in the mid 19th century. By the early twentieth century, fully modernist slab serif designs such as Beton (the slab Futura), Rockwell and City eschewed such devices. 



    Image by James Mosley from Typophile.
  • Nick Shinn
    Nick Shinn Posts: 2,216
    edited June 2018
    But Wes, balls are supposedly round, not teardrop or oval shaped (other than rugby and American football…) It’s rather difficult to write a round shape with anything other than a pointed nib pen. (Or a speedball round nib!)
  • Wes Adams
    Wes Adams Posts: 59
    edited June 2018
    @Nick Shinn, are you trying to say that ball terminals are different somehow because they're morphologically pointed nib? 
  • John Hudson
    John Hudson Posts: 3,229
    edited June 2018
    It’s rather difficult to write a round shape with anything other than a pointed nib pen.
     :smile:

    I took Wes' point to be that a ball terminal is simply a particular proportion of loop or knot finial.

  • Mark Simonson
    Mark Simonson Posts: 1,739
    edited June 2018
    Nice demo here by Seb Lester on making various shapes, including ball terminals, using a pointed nib. (Possibly NSFW.) (From on Seb's Tumblr site, on which he also posts lots of examples using different writing tools.)
  • AbiRasheed
    AbiRasheed Posts: 238
    edited June 2018
    Actually for ball terminals, teardrops and the like a stub nib would be more fitting even for Wes' example and slightly more calligraphic without the need to fill in/draw. @Mark Simonson, he might be using a pointed pen but he's actually 'filling' in the terminals, it becomes more obvious if the size of the nib increased or the xheight, at the size he's writing not so much where he could just dot it and it would suffice for a ball terminal. Filling it in is okay but it's slightly bordering on lettering/drawing really. If you look at old chancery cursive they have a lot of teardrops in them for ascenders, those were usually done with a stub as far as I can tell but the nib dictated it so you didn't have to fill in or anything. For those that used a broadedge, they'd sort of tilt the nib upright to get it to a point but eventually they filled it in too.