Numerals

Ori Ben-Dor

One moment I think 6 & 9 are too wide or their bowls are too large, the next moment I think they're just about the right size. (When I tested narrower/smaller versions, it was the opposite: one moment I thought it was too narrow/small, the next moment it looked to me alright.)

What do you think?

Other comments are welcome as well.

Jasper de Waard

Looks like 0 and 8 might be a bit too narrow.

Ori Ben-Dor

I'll play with it, thanks.

Christian Thalmann

I rather thought 4 might be a bit wide. Nice and chunky shapes though.

Ori Ben-Dor

I'll look into that too, thanks.

Ori Ben-Dor

4/5/6/9 have become a bit narrower.
0/3/8 a bit wider.

Marc Oxborrow

The interesting construction of the 4 isn't echoed anywhere else. Maybe the beak of the 1 is flat, rather than curved? 

Hrant Հրանդ Փափազեան Papazian

If your opinion is alternating it means it's right on.  :->

Biggest problems I'm seeing:
— The "4" is quite unhappy.
— The bottom of the "2" appears too heavy.

Ori Ben-Dor

Hrant H. Papazian said:

— The "4" is quite unhappy.

I'm trying to figure out what you mean: would you say the previous version was happier, or is it the whole concept?

Ori Ben-Dor

Marc Oxborrow said:

The interesting construction of the 4 isn't echoed anywhere else. Maybe the beak of the 1 is flat, rather than curved? 

I'll try your idea, thanks.

Hrant Հրանդ Փափազեան Papazian

The three diagonals are fighting. And the stub is too short; might be best to simply ax it.

Ori Ben-Dor

The bottom of 2 is now a bit lighter. I've also changed 4 a little, not sure if it's happier now (but I suspect it's too heavy now, I'll have to see if I still suspect that tomorrow).

I think I've also narrowed 3 by 1 or 2 points. Probably no one can tell.

I'll try Marc's suggestion when I have more time.

Simon Cozens

Is the symmetrical construction of the 8 deliberate? I thought you generally need the top bowl smaller than the bottom, but I would be interested to hear if there are good reasons for an exception.

Ori Ben-Dor

The top bowl is smaller:

Simon Cozens

So it is! Off to the opticians...

jeremy tribby

the width of the diagonals on 4679 might vary too much

Ori Ben-Dor

Don't you think it add a little spice?

jeremy tribby

I am not sure, I think it is a little too much. 7 and 9 are where it's most apparent to me. but if the flavor of these numerals suits the other characters maybe it is fine.

from left to right,  I overlaid some other sans, Futura, DIN, yours, aligned at bottom right corner -- look at the bit of magenta sticking out at the bottom left, 

Ori Ben-Dor

Alright, I'll play with that. Thanks!

Ori Ben-Dor

This is more conventional. Jeremy, do you like it better now? I think it's lost some character and balance.

Ray Larabie

Agree...with the 3rd sentence. If you keep second guessing yourself you'll spoil it. Commit and move on.

jeremy tribby

Hmm, looking at it both ways I am less sure, because you are right, it does lose something. Ignore me and carry on 

Ori Ben-Dor

I am pretty committed to the widening diagonals, I was just experimenting with Jeremy's idea

Hrant Հրանդ Փափազեան Papazian

The flaring diagonals are nice. But in the "4" they're still causing trouble with the one in the short stem.

Ori Ben-Dor

In a way that the experimental version resolves?

(I must admit I don't quite see the problem there. I see the complexity, but it doesn't seem to me problematic. I would like to dwell on that, though, if that's okay. I'm just a beginner and I have plenty to learn.)

Hrant Հրանդ Փափազեան Papazian

I would just match the (apparent) incline of the stem's diagonal with the middle one. And I still think the short stub on the right is out of character.

Ori Ben-Dor

Something like this?

Ori Ben-Dor

Oh, you probably mean the other way around:

Hrant Հրանդ Փափազեան Papazian

Yes, but now it looks too open.  :-/
Maybe it should just be straight.

Ori Ben-Dor

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Hrant Հրանդ Փափազեան Papazian

I like it. Maybe raise the stem sightly.