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i do think there seems to be a tendency (from a few) to be allways on the negative
downers, and grim reapers, such as @Butterick pull their socks up, and look at what Spiekermann has just done
James_Puckett, curious what you think has been 'deceitful'?
Max, yes TelMoz is a derivation from Meta to a new UI face. Mozilla have being using Meta for a while now for their branding. Is that bad that it derives from Meta?
Not wagging my finger (or anything else!) at anyone…
I make a living (so far!) by creating fonts aimed at that whole new area of blogging and cms platforms and the theming services that provide them.
@maxphillips "Can someone please explain what's good about open source font development? ... the quality of the best of these typefaces has never been higher. So what problem does open source development solve?"
@maxphillips "What, specifically, do you think type designers should be doing to positively engage these new developments? How are we supposed to eat?"
Because there is a lot of type that is in the public domain
"In thinking of typeface models that accomplish these tasks well, I was drawn to the forms of the American Type Founders’ gothics designed by Morris Fuller Benton. In particular, I have always been impressed by the forms of his News Gothic and Franklin Gothic, which have been staples for typographers since their introduction in the early twentieth century. While keeping these models in mind, I never sought to copy specific features from these types."
I'm not saying its the best way to maximize profits, I'm saying that profits is not my #1 goal in business because I think other values are more important - values like maintaining a free society.
Yes, people don't earn as much money as when they have power over users [...]
But libre licensing is a necessity for a lot of net based technologies. Dismissing Libre licensing is basically ignoring a whole new market, and there's some interesting stuff happening in the way people can make a living in that new market. Take it or leave it, i say.
I'm curious what you think the typical revenue potential from a single style Latin-1 display type is.
That has a lot to do with Google Web Fonts’ tendency to behave in ways that professional type designers find insulting, exploitive, and deceitful.
If a popular designer cooked it up revenues can exceed $10,000 shortly after launch .... Of course, they can also tank and not sell at all.
I believe the copyright on typeface designs in the EU has a duration of 25 years, no?
That's exactly the point. You can sell lot of licenses.. or you can sell none.. its uncertain. It's a risk you take hoping that you will sell a lot.Doing a Libre font commissioned by GWF it's no different to making a custom font for a corporate client.
Because Google does not actually commission designs
Clients with dignity and integrity pay up front and work with designers to create fonts that actually fill a need
instead of picking and choosing from random submissions
I don't quite understand where the idea that these deep-pocketed tech firms want to kill off the nascent retail market for webfonts (or the established market for desktop fonts) comes from.
That's plain wrong. AFAIK Google has commissioned lots of designs to lots of designers.
In ATypI Reykjavik ( http://www.atypi.org/past-conferences/2011-reykjavik/programme/activity?a=35 ) Dawn Shaikh and Steve Matteson presented how they have done exactly that for the Droid Family.
Also, I believe that the entire GWF library is filling a need (The same need that Adobe Edge is now trying to fill). Otherwise it would not have become so popular.