collecting (glyph name) suffixes

Lukas Schneider

Hi Typedrawers,
I started to make a rough collection of suffixes for glyph names (e.g. .sc).
It would be great if you would provide other suffixes or sources where to find them. This is what I have so far:

small caps:

.sc

.smcp

.small

small

oldstyle figures:

.osf

.oldstyle

oldstyle

tabular figures:

.tf

proportional figures:
.fitted

tabular oldstyle figures:

.tosf

.taboldstyle

superiors:

.sups

.superior

superior

inferiors:

.inf

.inferior

inferior

numerators:

.numerator

.numr

denominators:

.denominator

.dnom

case accents:

.case

.cap

c2sc:

.c2sc

Georg Seifert

.fitted are more likely to be proportional, aren't they?

Lukas Schneider

True! my mistake! thanks! 

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Nina Stössinger

Aren’t conventions for at least some of this highly variable between designers/foundries? So I guess the question is what your goal is: Just to highlight popular conventions? Or to inventorize everything anyone’s ever done (good luck with that )

FWIW when I made Suffixer I was wondering too what a good starting point would be for presets; I ended up populating the list with endings that would correspond to OT feature names, which I got the impression is a somewhat popular thing to do. I know this is far from “complete” (whatever that means in this context) but it seemed like a useful (and logical) selection to start with.

presets = ["case", "dnom", "fina", "hist", "init", "isol", "locl", 
"lnum", "medi", "numr", "onum", "ordn", "tnum", "pcap", "salt", 
"sinf", "smcp", "ss01", "ss02", "ss03", "ss04", "ss05", "ss06", 
"ss07", "ss08", "ss09", "ss10", "ss11", "ss12", "ss13", "ss14", 
"ss15", "ss16", "ss17", "ss18", "ss19", "ss20", "subs", "sups", 
"swsh", "titl", "zero" ]

John Hudson

I tend to use OTL feature tags as suffixes, e.g. .smcp, .c2sc, .sups, .ss01, etc.

For numeral styles, though, I use abbreviated alignment/spacing suffixes: .OP, .OT, .LP. .LT as appropriate, depending on which style is default in the font (and .SP and .ST if including smallcap numerals).

I use .cap for uppercase mark forms, and reserve .case for all-caps punctuation or other variants accessed via the OTL {case} feature.

Bahman Eslami

For localized forms also I use language tags in OT syntax as the suffix, so for example Urdu number one will be arOne.URD

Lukas Schneider

Thanks @James Montalbano @Nina Stössinger @John Hudson @Bahman Eslami!

@Nina Stössinger: I assume that these will differ between designers/foundries.
On the one hand I would like to find out if there is something like most common suffixes, on the other hand such a list would help (at least me) to apply e.g. python scripts to a broader range of glyph names on default without the need of a user input for example. 

Currently I am not so much interested in things like swashes/endings/beginnings or stylistic sets etc. - more about the "basic" character set and figures I mentioned above. 

If anyone will add stuff still, it would be great if she/he could add a few words, because mentioning only the suffix could be difficult to comprehend in certain cases. 

Tim Rolands

I use a configuration file for OpenType.tools to specify what endings and suffixes to associate with a given feature. You can find a listing of these here.

Nick Shinn

periodcentered.ldot

This is used for Catalan, when the /ldot character is keyed “l periodcentered”.
I suppose I could have named it “.cat”

quoteright.grek

Used for Greek quote mark that looks like the smooth breathing diacritic.

Of course, I could have labelled these “.alt”, which is what I usually do, but the more specific terminology helps me identify what the glyphs are for, especially as they are identical, in terms of BCPs, to other glyphs.

Lukas Schneider

Thank you very much @Nick Shinn for the addition and @Tim Rolands for the link. @Tim Rolands: I assume Glyph Endings in your listing means that these are directly appended to a glyph name without using a period in between, like it is with a suffix, right? Thanks again for your support! Great work by the way! 

John Hudson

This is used for Catalan, when the /ldot character is keyed “l periodcentered”.
I suppose I could have named it “.cat”

Or .CAT if you want to observe the conventional distinction between script and language system tag casing.

Tim Rolands

Lukas Schneider said:

I assume Glyph Endings in your listing means that these are directly appended to a glyph name without using a period in between, like it is with a suffix, right?  

That is correct.