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Christian Thalmann


Christian Thalmann
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  • Re: How do I set up various IJ digraphs in my typeface?

    To avoid the need for a Dutch locl, I just added ijacute and fij as Standard Ligatures (liga). I forgot about capitals, but I guess I should add those too. 
    So you're forcing an accented j even in non-Dutch languages? That's going to look really weird. One of countless examples would be the Hungarian word íj «bow» (as in archery).

    My favorite solution is to replace /i by /i.loclNLD and /iacute by /iacute.loclNLD in Dutch and then having standard ligatures for /iacute_j etc. This also automatically breaks the /f_i ligature.
  • Re: Freitag — toying around with a geometric display sans

    No, there is a medial ب between the ع  and ى that got ligated with the later (basically that raised part of the final ى is part of the other letter).

    Aha, that explains it! :grimace: Though I can't imagine how one would render that with a contextual alternate alone, since the ب got completely subsumed. Would it be acceptable to draw the medial ب in full and then add the rising ى...?

    Arabic usually have grows more vertically than horizontally, tries to squeeze it usually cramps things badly (but that does not prevent many designers from doing). Staked marks in Arabic are rather common in vocalised text, if you feel your design will not be commonly used for vocalised text you can keep tight line spacing for the default and users of vocalised text can use more bigger spacing (but make sure to have big enough Win metrics to avoid clipping in certain brain dead Windows applications).
    The problem is that I don't want to increase the typeface's vertical size just to accommodate the Arabic. For instance, I've seen Gentium take up a huge amount of vertical space in Word, and when I tried to reduce the line spacing below 1, it started clipping for no good reason.

    For now, my favorite solution would be to keep the Arabic as horizontal as possible and stay within the established vertical bounds. That probably means reducing the ي to a horizontal line... let's see if that works.  :smirk:

    I'll also have to avoid the stacking ligatures, then. What's the minimum set of ligatures/contextual alternates that a font must support to be considered functional? Someone on Twitter just said the 213 ligatures in Glyphs were the bare minimum; if so, I can just about forget it.

    Of course, I could make a dedicated Arabic spin-off of my font that does have a lot of vertical space. I suppose I should rather save that idea for another time, though...  baby steps.  :grimace: 
  • Re: Futura and Avant Garde

    Here are some more moderate options: Moskau Grotesk, Montreal, Fenomen, Volte.
    And let's not forget Quinoa. :grimace:

    While I'm not a fan of Avant Garde myself, I can see why people would like to use it in display settings. In text settings, though, it ought to be a crime even worse than Apple's use of skinny Helvetica for UI settings.
  • Re: Start Grotesque

    If you're going that way, I think a descender is a must.
  • Re: Start Grotesque

    I don't think it's in danger of being interpreted like that when the spur is missing. A sigmoid descender would help legibility among the unwashed masses, though, if that's a goal.