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Łukasz JózefŁukasz Józef Posts: 11
edited November 2016 in Type Design Critiques

Could you give me same advice for improvement of the letter structure and visual homogeneousness of the stem width? Here is bold version attached, all comments are welcome, Thank You


  • The stroke endings of the c and e don't match the s. Both look a bit forced so maybe us the s as the reference?
  • Łukasz JózefŁukasz Józef Posts: 11
    edited November 2016
    Right, there are too many variants, maybe lower ending of (perpendicular to the main acute angle) will work for c&e

  • Building on George's comment I would also consider flattening the stroke endings on /vwxy/ which seem to be a bit too lively and are better suited on occasional letters only like /k/. The /a/ could also do with a notch at the top to differentiate the shape from /b/ and /d/. Check out similar fonts like Brandon Grotesque for some inspiration.
  • Hello,
    here at Futura's ces test word all terminals are quite a different. I've tried to make mine ces more unified than before. Maybe now e finial is to swashy when compared to rigid gyj and full circle o?

    Chris, I've got an opposite view. vwxy seems ok to me (especially those letters with flat base line) and I consider as to lively one. Shapes of and b&are different because being of ascenders, so I can't find the reason to alter them further.

  • Re terminals don't need to be all the same angle. The angle of how they cut the stroke is more important. Check the angles of the terminal lines to the curves on both sides. Some are blunt, some are sharp. 

    In the Futura example, the e and s are cut perpendicular to the stroke. The c is cut vertically because in German, the c is always followed by a h or k. And Futura was created in Germany. So the c is an exception. 
  • good explanation, thank You. I'll return here with uppercase completed.
  • Adam JagoszAdam Jagosz Posts: 57
    edited March 4
    @Chris Drabsch
    Is /k an occasional letter? Perhaps in the Western European languages, otherwise, not so much. 

    @Łukasz Józef
    Was making /p a mirror image of /q and /b of /d your intention? Honestly, /p and /q do not look great together, I get the impression they are looking up at something between them we cannot see. All of /a /b /d /q /p are copycats of each other with no respect for pen logic,
    while /g is incongruent with them. It is build from a full circle like /c, while /a /b /d /q /p transition to horizontal. Make sure that's what you wished.

    I like the new /e. (But aren't the sides a tad too pointy? I mean, I would try making them more full). I think the obliquely cut /v/w/x/y resonate nicely with the indented tops of /m/n/p/q.
    I think what Chris meant by adding a 'notch' was to make /a look like the /g at the top. Doing so would make it more congruent with the above letters.

    Show us the regular/thin if you have one! (You mentioned "bold version" in the original post, do you have another?)
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