New post-Canva acquisition Affinity

John Butler
John Butler Posts: 350
edited November 24 in Miscellaneous News
Anyone tried it yet? New or interesting or unique features? Any real challenge to Adobe? I still trot along with Scribus, Inkscape and LibreOffice, but I’m itching for more variable font support.
Jessica Hische is on their designer advisory board, which seems positive.

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  • Yves Michel
    Yves Michel Posts: 222
    edited November 24
    I downloaded and installed it. 
    You must know that, on the Windows list of installers (French site), the items are:
    • the Windows (Intel/AMD) item downloads a .msix file which produces an app located in Program Files\WindowsApps
    • the Entreprise (Intel/AMD) item downloads a .exe file which produces an app located in Program Files
    The second one corresponds to the usual way of installing, the first one is a little more difficult to understand if you're not used to it. I was a bit disoriented!

    As for the app itself, I still have to understand its very particular structure  :(

  • Mark Simonson
    Mark Simonson Posts: 1,771
    A big question I have is that if Affinity gains a significant segment of the design market, that could shift people away from Adobe Fonts, which is a big source of income for a lot of type designers.

    As for Affinity, when it first shipped (as separate apps), the OpenType support was pretty bad. Currently it's very good (as of version 2 of each of the apps, IIRC).
  • Mark Simonson
    Mark Simonson Posts: 1,771
    edited November 24
    I would add that I've owned licenses to the Affinity apps since they were first launched, but I've rarely used them, except for testing. My early impression was that the interface (with its "personas" for different tasks) was unnecessarily different. I think they thought it was a UI advance, but I just found it weird. They seem to have substituted "studios" for personas in the new all-in-one version.

    A big part of the reason I haven't abandoned Adobe is familiarity and nearly 40 years of documents created in Adobe apps, which is a pretty significant reason to stay put. Not to mention the fact that I still need to test my fonts in Adobe apps, given that it's a such a widespread standard.

    The most likely users to make the move are newer Adobe users who are less committed. So I could see Affinity cutting into Adobe's user growth if not so much its existing base.
  • A big question I have is that if Affinity gains a significant segment of the design market, that could shift people away from Adobe Fonts ...
    Could you explain the link between the success of Affinity and the shift away from Adobe fonts? 
  • Mark Simonson
    Mark Simonson Posts: 1,771
    edited November 24
    A lot of type foundries have distribution agreements with Adobe for their fonts to be included in the Adobe Fonts library. When a user buys an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription, access to the Adobe Fonts library is included. The foundries are paid based on font activations of their fonts by CC users. 

    Adobe doesn't sell access to Adobe Fonts any other way. Access to Adobe Fonts one of Adobe's incentives for attracting customers.

    If customers cancel their CC subscriptions, that will reduce the amount paid to foundries. Similarly if the growth of new Adobe customers slows, that would also have an effect on how much is paid to foundries.

    Just as an example, before I sold my font IP to The Type Founders in 2021, Adobe Fonts amounted to about 40% of my income. I'm sure this varies from one foundry to the next, but I suspect it's even higher for some.
  • Thanks Mark ! We learn each day.
  • John Hudson
    John Hudson Posts: 3,551
    Has anyone tested Arabic or Indic script support in the latest version of Affinity?
  • Although you can't do a separate Adobe Fonts subscription, you can just subscribe to Adobe InCopy ... which includes Adobe Fonts. It is only $5/month.
    Could use it as an add-on to Affinity, I suppose!