Creative Fabrica - AI Font Generator

Abdurrahman Hanif
Abdurrahman Hanif Posts: 9
in Font Technology
Creative Fabrica just released the AI Font Generator, is there anyone know something about this? from what i know, type design industry copyright system is very strict so how this will be work?

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  • Simon Cozens
    Simon Cozens Posts: 766
    Spacing is hard.
  • Cristóbal Alarcón
    Cristóbal Alarcón Posts: 79
    Good thing I never liked those "quirky" type of fonts, because now I'm sure they will flood even more type markets.
  • Yury Yarmola
    Yury Yarmola Posts: 28
    While this is unrelated to the AI Font Generator by Creative Fabrica, this is the current state of business in AI font generation, as of today:


    It is not exactly "one-click" process, more like 20 clicks per font (not counting writing the actual prompt)
  • Igor Petrovic
    Igor Petrovic Posts: 318
    Without close checking, that second one looks pretty much like Optima.
  • Yury Yarmola
    Yury Yarmola Posts: 28
    Igor Petrovic said:
    Without close checking, that second one looks pretty much like Optima.
    That was in the prompt, "create something like Optima". 

    These samples are from very different prompts, mainly used to check current level of hallucinations and overall quality. 

    First (which looks like DIN) had DIN in prompt "create a DIN font but make it more humanistic". 

    Third is "modern geometric sans-serif", followed by "modern script", then the font that is "best for certain picture| and final font was made from some lettering (also created by AI), with prompt "create font specimen for the lettering in this picture" (or something like that).

    And this is the "blend of Comic Sans and modern geometric sans-serif" :)


  • Ermin Međedović
    Ermin Međedović Posts: 87
    This scares me.
  • Johannes Neumeier
    Johannes Neumeier Posts: 390
    The real issue is average users getting used to, and accepting the quality, of these. Dead internet typography all over. On the great scale we can only hope this soup of mediocre AI nonsense generates a strong enough backlash eventually, but my bet is on people’s laziness. Why think, when you can have a good enough guess? Why learn a craft, when you can fake it convincingly enough? Why spend time, when everything is available at an instant? It’s quite the promise.
  • Igor Petrovic
    Igor Petrovic Posts: 318
    edited April 23
    I am wondering if the prompt "make something similar to XY font" could technically be done without sourcing the XY typeface this way or another. I know that letterforms cannot be copyrighted, but the typeface images that AI uses are protected.

    Similar to most licensing docs prohibit making physical products based on letterforms (wooden alphabet toy, i.e.) 

    Is it a plain license infringement? Is it enough to put in our licenses that it is prohibited to use any material containing a typeface (images, etc.) for AI?
  • Yury Yarmola
    Yury Yarmola Posts: 28
    As a side note, please judge overall spacing quality in my font samples picture. That is relevant to the subject of this discussion ))

  • Rndi Type Foundry
    Rndi Type Foundry Posts: 1
    See you here again XD 
  • Filip Paldia
    Filip Paldia Posts: 46
    The mediocre stuff will improve quite fast. Remember Chatgpt two years ago? Now Claude can solve pretty hard mathematical and logical problems.

    The only obstacle is a good and labelled initial dataset, which I find not so hard to create. Actually, that was my dissertation topic. (I can share the concept if anyone is interested).

    So what now? Are the type folks going to passively look at the large players stealing their fonts and having nothing from the revenue pie?

    Maybe I am naive, but my Marxist part says that there is a chance. If type folks put forces together (whatever union) and build their own dataset, they can train their own model.


  • Yury Yarmola
    Yury Yarmola Posts: 28
    For now myfonts.com works as a great font dataset training machine ))
    You can "type in" any letter in any font + you have decent font family description.

    Coding the engine which will extract all training data will take a day. 
  • Simon Cozens
    Simon Cozens Posts: 766
    The problem with things which will take a day to code is that you can get a project up and running faster than you can think about the legal and ethical issues.
  • Yury Yarmola
    Yury Yarmola Posts: 28
    This might be the reason why no such project has been published yet.
  • Alex Visi
    Alex Visi Posts: 186
    edited 12:28PM
    Yury, are they vector drawings? Would you mind showing what “a slightly playful geometric sans-serif with a subtle contrast, semi-closed apertures, thin connections, old-style varying letter widths and an extra large x-height” would be? Your “humanist DIN” has nothing humanist about it, and the others look just like the fonts they copied, so I’m curious to see something less generic/more specific. From that post so far, it looks like a potential competition for freebies rather than for commercial foundries, but it’s interesting to see where its limits are.

    Filip Paldia said:

    Maybe I am naive, but my Marxist part says that there is a chance. If type folks put forces together (whatever union) and build their own dataset, they can train their own model.

    If this rat race develops, it’s going to be free on google and almost free under adobe subscription, so nobody else wins this, including Yury.

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