Austrian Hat Liner and Hat Paper Label, Possibly Late 19th Century?

Hutmann
Hutmann Posts: 43
in Type History
I collect vintage / antique German and Austrian Hats. 

I am wondering if there is anything typography wise that would point to late 19th Century. 

Hat Liner

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Paper Labels from Hat

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The hat form points to late 19th Century 1880-99.  

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54039401367_0fae67e245_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54040508598_77104720fe_b.jpg

Thanks!



Comments

  • John Hudson
    John Hudson Posts: 3,527
    I couldn’t say any of the lettering points definitely to the late 19th Century: without comparing to that used in other J. Hückel’s Söhne liners and labels, it isn’t possible to narrow in on a specific period. I would say that the type styles and typography certainly could be from that period, but also could be early 20th Century.
  • Nick Shinn
    Nick Shinn Posts: 2,301
    The printed material appears to be hand engraved in imitation of type.
    The letter forms are inconsistent and the grid of boxed lines is too neat for type rules.
    The styles used are late 19th, early twentieth century, but as John says, that’s as precise as one can be.

  • Hutmann
    Hutmann Posts: 43
    John Hudson said:
    I couldn’t say any of the lettering points definitely to the late 19th Century: without comparing to that used in other J. Hückel’s Söhne liners and labels, it isn’t possible to narrow in on a specific period. I would say that the type styles and typography certainly could be from that period, but also could be early 20th Century.
    Thank you for the reply and info.  Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any JHS catalogs (late 19th Century to WWII).  I have been looking for many years.  JHS became Tonak after WWII.  They were located in Neutitschein / Novy Jicin (Austria up to WWI after Czechoslovakia).  I can only go by the hat form which is very late 19th Century like. 
  • Hutmann
    Hutmann Posts: 43
    edited October 2024
    Nick Shinn said:
    The printed material appears to be hand engraved in imitation of type.
    The letter forms are inconsistent and the grid of boxed lines is too neat for type rules.
    The styles used are late 19th, early twentieth century, but as John says, that’s as precise as one can be.

    Thank you.  As I mentioned I don't have JHS catalogs so I can only go by the hat form.  Also, I have no other WWI era or earlier JHS Stiff or Soft Felt Hat with the same type of paper labels.  The use of two paper labels is unique.  Here is an example of a 1901 to WWI paper label.

    http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/9584620444_10a5637cd5_b.jpg

    http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/9679462269_bef956e4ec_b.jpg

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/9682684364_104392b456_b.jpg

    http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/9679478369_8b614137a0_b.jpg

    This JHS Stiff Felt mentions the 1900 Paris Grand Prix.  

    http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/9679499069_5ca9613a07_b.jpg

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