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  • @Thomas Phinney We all know that naming is the episiotomy of font design (would legitimately be torture under other circumstances but in context is just one more indignity).  So you're right about the scenario you describe and you're also right that…
  • I've always understood the primary reason for foundry prefixes (or suffixes) to be getting around the problem of finding available words for font names.  We don't like it because gets in the way of the poetry of the name and have always seen not usi…
  • @Scott Biersack I just reread your initial question and realized none of us responded to the part about pricing.  The reason for that is that it really isn't appropriate for us to tell you how to price.  That's for everyone to decide for themselves.…
  • You can see right away that having different customer bases effects this process.  Most of our clients are companies seeking identity fonts.  
  • A few things John didn't mention that I always ask: 1.  What do you love about the fonts your company is currently using? 2.  What do you hate about the fonts your company is currently using? 3.  Are there any technical problems you are trying to s…
  • @Jess McCarty Ah.  Well, that is very clever.  I do, however, question your basic assumption that the most important criteria for choosing an attorney is that they be near you.  We're in NY, and our primary attorney is also, but I almost never mee…
  • The answer depends a lot on governing law.  If you're in the US then no one can copywrite the typeface (glyph design). The ownership of the software goes to the person who made it unless you have an agreement to do otherwise.  This ownership can be …
  • @Dave Rowland you're right, of course. I was responding to the conversation as it had evolved - not as it had started. That said, nine years seems like a long time and I think it is likely there's something specific to you that lead to your only ju…
  • It's very hard to market fonts.  Conventional wisdom is that the best way is through high profile uses.  This makes a lot of sense because customers are distrusting of typesetting done by the designer.  All too often people less familiar with the fo…
  • I literally just got a support call from a customer who's designer told her to buy a license for "Halyard Bold" - because this is how people talk.  Never mind that there is actually no such thing by that name.  We always use the full names for exact…
  • @Adam Ladd  I can't say if there's a measurable advantage.  Freight was released so long ago,  and by a publisher not by us at that.  Even if I had data to compare the world has changed so much since then that I don't think it would allow reasonable…
  • @Adam Ladd - Years ago I noticed something:  When I would go to a party and tell people where I work no one would ever say "I used Freight Micro/Big/Sans/etc on a project and loved it".  They would always say "I used Freight on a Project and loved i…
  • @Mike Wenzloff  licensees who read the EULA are my people and I thank you.  Because I'm a nerd, I read EULAs for fun - not use, and I have to say they are a great way to get your blood pressure up.   @James Puckett is not wrong that it is hard to c…
  • @SiDaniels If I had it to do over I would probably go with user rather than work station because workstation doesn't account for virtual machines where user does.  CPUs is a legacy of a time before the internet was really actualized, and certainly b…
  • @Mike Wenzloff you are the second person to ask me that in 6 years.  The answer is that we aren't that picky and you can count one machine with two processors as one.  I would have changed the EULA to reflect that if we got the question more often.
  • As usual I'm too busy to do any research into the specifics of the example that has raised this question and I'm just going to throw up an answer that might be to a different question but that is still definitely useful to someone.   In the latest …
  • @Kent Lew and @Johannes Neumeier some desktop licenses are that way - with some prominent foundries though I can't remember who off the top of my head.  You have to read the license carefully to find it but it will say something like "this license i…
  • A lot of apps are not directly making money.  We get a lot of customer loyalty apps using our font's for instance.  Similarly, a lot of websites basically are the product.  It isn't simple but we seek to the licensing as straightforward as possible.…
  • Oh, one other thing.  Using your exisiting documents allows you to insist that any redrafting of the language is extra because your prices assume they will use your documents.   This is distinct from when they want an edit that grants additional ri…
  • @Dave Crossland for mobile apps with embedded fonts it takes more knowledge to extract the fonts than the css of a website    So, only “more secure” because of what happens to be and not be common knowledge   i still think it counts because having t…
  • If you are comfortable with your EULAs and you don't want to have a lengthy negotiation process you can simply use those instruments.  Our studio just uses our regular tables for unlimited pricing.  For desktop we ask for estimates of the current …
  • I can't speak for Klim, not least because they have a one size fits all pricing model for both web and app.  For us, all pricing is based on traffic (page views for web and users for app). The pricing has to be different because the yard sticks are …
  • My understanding is that the distinction is not just technical but also legal.  I say this because the first person to explain the difference to me was not in fonts, exactly, but a lawyer (a very long time ago).  I could be wrong but my understandin…
  • @SiDaniels Thank you for pointing out the way in which I was unclear.  I meant that I would never allow more than one desktop license.  I think of OEM distribution as being a different animal because we grant it as an addendum to the license granted…
  • Does someone know if the font has one license or if each company is using its standard license for its sales? It's been a while since I read the Monotype EULA but that could be the difference.  Remember that neither entity is "selling Neua Haas Gro…
  • I just reread my last post and I can see that the penultimate paragraph may be a bit confusing.  My choice of wording "bad font license management culture" is misleading.  "Bad" implies intent or at least violating behavior and that's not what I'm g…
  • @Thierry Blancpain  Of course our fonts are easily pirated.  I keep trying to say this in an offhand way and I can see now that I just need to spell it out. It is a fundamental truth that we can not stop bad actors from stealing our fonts.  It is e…
  • @Johannes Neumeier You're not wrong. You probably know that my usual tendency is to hate on unenforceable rules.  This feels a little bit different.  The reason to have this even if most people don't follow it and  - even if we aren't going to tre…