Never Mind Starling

I was looking at a digital copy of the 1908 Stephenson Blake specimen book in its Canadian edition.

Their Lining Old Style No. 5 looked... rather familiar.


Maybe there are aspects in which it is greatly different from the Times new Roman, but at least it gives the same general impression, even if it is likely derived from Caslon as opposed to Plantin's type.

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  • What a beautiful typeface! It’s interesting to see how the modern-day version of Starlin by Mike Partner looks entirely different, even closer to Times New Roman:

    https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/starling

  • Hrant H. PapazianHrant H. Papazian Posts: 1,382
    edited March 7
    Definitely read the rebuttal, but frankly it was far less convincing, in fact full of smoke-screens.
  • Thomas PhinneyThomas Phinney Posts: 1,417
    I note that the supposed contractual document has never been seen. The folks at P22, who purchased Lanston from Giampa, say they have seen no trace or evidence of any such thing among the Lanston assets. A number of folks close to Giampa and Parker have told me they thought it was just an elaborate practical joke that perhaps got a bit out of hand.
  • John HudsonJohn Hudson Posts: 1,600
    edited March 7
    The folks at P22, who purchased Lanston from Giampa, say they have seen no trace or evidence of any such thing among the Lanston assets.
    Gerald's operation on Prince Edward Island was flooded out by a tidal surge, and most of the paper archive reported destroyed before Lanston was sold to P22.

    Conveniently or not, depending on your level of skepticism.
  • John HudsonJohn Hudson Posts: 1,600
    Definitely read the rebuttal, but frankly it was far less convincing, in fact full of smoke-screens.
    The stuff in the rebuttal about the stamping of the series numbers in the Lanston brass patterns is impossible to answer, as Mike Parker acknowledged when we spoke after he read Nicholas Barker's piece (before it was published, as I recall). There's no way the Lanston 54 number could have been stamped earlier than the Monotype series 362 number, since the latter is rubbed down and the former is not. Although I have tried to keep an open mind about Burgess claim since I first sat with Mike under the grape trellis at Gerald's Vancouver workplace, and heard about his initial investigations, I do think it entirely possible that the whole thing was a hoax promulgated by Gerald.
  • John SavardJohn Savard Posts: 347
    What a beautiful typeface! It’s interesting to see how the modern-day version of Starlin by Mike Partner looks entirely different, even closer to Times New Roman:

    https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/starling
    I had remembered seeing somewhere an "original" version of Starling, and then seeing that Mike Palmer's Starling looked an awful lot like Times, so I had been wondering about this, and am grateful for the reference that allows me to see what I had seen and forgotten.
  • edited March 9
    I should really stop typing comments with an iPhone. Or at least slow down and read what it replaced my words with before I post.
  • John SavardJohn Savard Posts: 347
    I see that it was Mike Parker who, at Font Bureau, drew the version of Starling that is on sale, so I don't know how I could have made this mistake.
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