Arabic variable fonts in Photoshop

A user on my forum has problems with getting a Arabic variable font to work in Photoshop. I tried in and had the same result. Has anyone an Arabic font that works in Photoshop. 

(Illustrator CC 2018 doesn't seem to support Arabic layout at all. At least I couldn't find the World-Ready composer in my version).
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  • I think you already did this, but to type Arabic/Persian correctly in AI CC 18 you should go to "Edit/Preferences/Type/Language Options and enable Show Indic Options.
  • I didn’t do this. All help documents from Adobe didn’t mentioned it. I only found docs for CC 17 and those didn’t mention the setting. Thanks. 
  • I didn’t do this. All help documents from Adobe didn’t mentioned it. I only found docs for CC 17 and those didn’t mention the setting. Thanks. 
    You're welcome. It is very strange indeed. They used to call that "Middle Eastern". Have no idea why they changed it to "Indic".
  • Interestingly, you need to choose between Indic and CJK controls. 

    Illustrator has the same problem as Photoshop with my fonts.
  • John HudsonJohn Hudson Posts: 1,228
    Interestingly, you need to choose between Indic and CJK controls. 

    If it works the way it used to with CS and earlier CC, the features are additive. So if you select ME/Indic you get those features installed, but then if you change to CJK you get those too, and then you can switch back to English and retain all.
  • Shahab SiavashShahab Siavash Posts: 121
    edited October 29
    Interestingly, you need to choose between Indic and CJK controls. 

    Illustrator has the same problem as Photoshop with my fonts.
    Yes, it has been like this for a few years now. I think it was after CS which basically had Middle Eastern versions (with a ME suffix), in CC it is a radio button and you have to select one. Every time needs restarting the programs too.
  • Interestingly, you need to choose between Indic and CJK controls. 

    If it works the way it used to with CS and earlier CC, the features are additive. So if you select ME/Indic you get those features installed, but then if you change to CJK you get those too, and then you can switch back to English and retain all.
    If I'm not mistaken it changed after CS and now it is a radio button for each. (Actually it is a checkbox, but one of them could be selected at once!)
  • John HudsonJohn Hudson Posts: 1,228
    I'm not sure where you're referring to in the settings. I'm talking about the app language version preference setting in the Creative Cloud management tool:


    Selecting the English/Arabic app language is how I've ensured that I get app versions with RTL layout control and Arabic script handling. [Note: I almost never use Illustrator, and seldom use Photoshop, so my experience is mostly based on InDesign.]
  • Shahab SiavashShahab Siavash Posts: 121
    edited October 30
    I'm not sure where you're referring to in the settings. I'm talking about the app language version preference setting in the Creative Cloud management tool:

    Selecting the English/Arabic app language is how I've ensured that I get app versions with RTL layout control and Arabic script handling. [Note: I almost never use Illustrator, and seldom use Photoshop, so my experience is mostly based on InDesign.]
    Thanks. I have never seen this before. Because Adobe Creative Cloud (the whole Adobe ID) is blocked for Iran. (Behance too!) It is very critical to the world peace apparently!

    I meant in the Illustrator itself:


  • John HudsonJohn Hudson Posts: 1,228
    Interesting. I've not seen that before, but as I say, I'm not much of an Illustrator user.

    There's a mindset I've encountered among some engineers at Adobe that text always consists of a single language or script, and hence that no one ever needs to access layout options for multiple writing systems together. I most recently encountered this in reference to a bug I logged against InDesign CS5, and which is still not fixed: last I queried this, the response was that because the bug affected Latin script text, it didn't need to be fixed in the World Ready Composer, since the affected text could be set using the regular paragraph composer (leaving aside that a similar bug with slightly different results affected that composer too). It hadn't crossed their minds that a paragraph might contain, e.g. both Latin and Devanagari words.
  • There's a mindset I've encountered among some engineers at Adobe that text always consists of a single language or script, and hence that no one ever needs to access layout options for multiple writing systems together.
    That is a rather odd way of thinking I guess. 

    And here in AI for example I think no one can type a paragraph with Persian and Japanese or Arabic & Chinese. I have never tried CJK, but still it could be the case and for that people need to do what? Type Persian, save, go to edit, change to East Asia, exit the AI, re-run, open the file, and then type the Japanese text? And every edit would need this? I don't know. Maybe it is not that big a deal, But annoying for sure!
  • John HudsonJohn Hudson Posts: 1,228
    And then there's Siddham script, which is both Indic and East Asian.
  • James PuckettJames Puckett Posts: 1,462
    It hadn't crossed their minds that a paragraph might contain, e.g. both Latin and Devanagari words.

  • And then there's Siddham script, which is both Indic and East Asian.
    What a concept! I didn't know about this script.
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